Based on this , on this along with the wrong blowback that Jacobin and Bernie Sanders have gotten for correctly suggesting that right wingers, incels and Qanons are the way they are in big part due to them being poor or near poor and that Left Social Democracy/Progressive Socialism would help them not be that way etc it seems that right wingers today are being dehumanized where even talking to them stains any liberal or leftist as a 'fascist enabler', 'grifter', 'right winger' , 'conservative' etc. I pointed out elsewhere but I will reintrate it here "It's baffling how liberals don't realize that by being so afraid of even talking about or being associated with some, basically neutral thing, be it a meme, a subculture, scene or social space online that the right has even so much as vaguely tried to associate itself with, they are literally ceding ground and surrendering said thing to the right. They demonize right wingers like they are ...